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Clarification of Purpose:
In the compilations given here, what we are about to say is without malice & prejudice, & is in good faith, without any intention to belittle any faith or prophet or holy book.
We accept the principle of there being One God & of surrender to Him.
We do not oppose the right of the IRF to believe in what they do,nor their right to practice & preach the message of the Koran.
However, we strongly oppose the IRF's attempts to belittle Vedic sanatana dharma & misrepresent it in a garb of (poor) scholasticism, in the name of preaching & presenting the teachings of Islam.
The inferences they draw from certain Vedic scriptural verses they quote are misconceived, fallacious & downright mistaken,& not only reflect their improper understanding of these sacred Vedic texts, but also reveal an inadequate understanding of their own Holy Books, & a closed, intolerant mind.
We, therefore, feel compelled to attempt to systematically set right these misrepresentations.
1.Form of God in Islamic Texts
ZN CHERRY PICKS those limited Vedic verses that describe God as imageless and formless, promoting the Islamic belief that Allah is formless. “Contrary to popular Islamic belief, “Allah” actually possesses physical attributes and form.
Refutation—
“Contrary to popular Islamic belief, “Allah” actually possesses physical attributes and form. The evidence for the same being presented below is from the corpus of Islamic scripture — the Qur’an and Ahadith
Muslims take their knowledge from two Islamic sources as mentioned below:-
1) The Qur’an which is the word of God revealed to Prophet Muhammad over a period of 23 years through the agency of Angel Gabriel.
2) The Ahadith (singular hadith) which are historical accounts of the Prophet’s life narrated by his contemporaries and their followers.
We have used the Qur’an (Translated by Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali and Dr.Muhammad Muhsin Khan) which is approved by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia and published world over by the Saudi Kingdom for free distribution through their Embassies in different countries, plus we have used the most authentic book of Hadith (Sahi Al Bukhari), denial of which drives a Muslim out of the pale of Islam. It is incumbent upon every person who claims to be a Muslim to believe in the Qur’an and the authentic hadith.
Now let us look into the Qur’an and the most authentic Islamic traditions in regards to what they have to say about the form of God.
The Face of Allah:
Translation of Al-Qur’an 055:027:
“And the Face of your Lord full of Majesty and Honour will abide forever.”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 503:
Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah:
When this Verse:–’Say (O Muhammad!): He has Power to send torments on you from above,’ (6.65) was revealed; The Prophet said, “I take refuge with Your Face.” Allah revealed: – ‘…or from underneath your feet.’ (6.65) The Prophet then said, “I seek refuge with Your Face!” Then Allah revealed:–’…or confuse you in party-strife.’ (6.65) on that, the Prophet said, “This is easier.”
The Eyes of Allah:
Translation of Al-Qur’an 096:014:
“Knows he not that Allah does see (what he does)?”
Translation of Al-Qur’an 052:048:
“So wait patiently (O Muhammad SAW) for the Decision of your Lord, for verily, you are under Our Eyes, and glorify the Praises of your Lord when you get up from sleep.”
Translation of Al-Qur’an 020:039:
“Saying: Put him (the child) into the Taboot (a box or a case or a chest) and put it into the river (Nile), then the river shall cast it up on the bank, and there, an enemy of Mine and an enemy of his shall take him. And I endued you with love from Me, in order that you may be brought up under My Eye,”
Translation of Al-Qur’an 054:014:
“Floating under Our Eyes, a reward for him who had been rejected!”
The Shin of Allah:
Translation of Al-Qur’an 068:042:
“(Remember) the Day when the Shin shall be laid bare (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) and they shall be called to prostrate (to Allah), but they (hypocrites) shall not be able to do so,”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532s:
Narrated Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri:
Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, ‘I am your Lord,’ and they will say, ‘You are not our Lord.’ And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, ‘Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?’ They will say. ‘The Shin and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation. These people will try to prostrate but their backs will be rigid like one piece of a wood (and they will not be able to prostrate).
The Foot of Allah:
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 373:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “
and the Fire (Hell) argued, and the Fire (Hell) said, “I have been given the privilege of receiving the arrogant and the tyrants.’
Paradisesaid, ‘What is the matter with me? Why do only the weak and the humble among the people enter me?’ On that, Allah said to
Paradise. ‘You are My Mercy which I bestow on whoever I wish of my servants.’ Then Allah said to the (Hell) Fire, ‘You are my (means of) punishment by which I punish whoever I wish of my slaves. And each of you will have its fill.’ As for the Fire (Hell), it will not be filled till Allah puts His Foot over it whereupon it will say, ‘Qati! Qati!’ At that time it will be filled, and its different parts will come closer to each other; and Allah will not wrong any of His created beings. As regards
Paradise, Allah will create a new creation to fill it with.”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 481:
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet said, “(The people will be thrown into Hell ( Fire) and it will keep on saying, ‘Is there any more?’ till the Lord of the worlds puts His Foot over it, whereupon its different sides will come close to each other, and it will say, ‘Qad! Qad! (enough! enough!) By Your ‘Izzat (Honor and Power) and YOUR KARAM (Generosity)!’ Paradise will remain spacious enough to accommodate more people until Allah will create some more people and let them dwell in the superfluous space of
.”
The Hands of Allah:
Translation of Al-Qur’an 038:075:
“Allah said: O Iblis!(satan) What prevents you from prostrating yourself to one whom I have created with Both My Hands? Are you too proud or are you of the high exalted?”
Translation of Al-Qur’an 039:067:
“They made not a just estimate of Allah such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified is He, and High is He above all that they associate as partners with Him!”
Translation of Al-Qur’an 048:010:
“Verily, those who give Baia (pledge) to you (O Muhammad SAW) they are giving Baia (pledge) to Allah. The Hand of Allah is over their hands. Then whosoever breaks his pledge, breaks only to his own harm, and whosoever fulfills what he has covenanted with Allah, He will bestow on him a great reward.”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 509:
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
Allah’s Apostle said, “On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will grasp the whole Earth by His Hand, and all the Heavens in His Right, and then He will say, ‘I am the King.” Abu Huraira said, “Allah’s Apostle said,” Allah will grasp the Earth…’ “
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 515:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “The Right (Hand) of Allah Is full, and (Its fullness) is not affected by the continuous spending night and day. Do you see what He has spent since He created the Heavens and the Earth? Yet all that has not decreased what is in His Right Hand. His Throne is over the water and in His other Hand is the Bounty or the Power to bring about death, and He raises some people and brings others down.”
The Finger of Allah:
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 510:
Narrated ‘Abdullah:
A Jew came to the Prophet and said, “O Muhammad! Allah will hold the heavens on a Finger, and the mountains on a Finger, and the trees on a Finger, and all the creation on a Finger, and then He will say, ‘I am the King.’ ” On that Allah’s Apostle smiled till his premolar teeth became visible, and then recited:–
‘No just estimate have they made of Allah such as due to him….(39.67) ‘Abdullah added: Allah’s Apostle smiled (at the Jew’s statement) expressing his wonder and believe in what was said.
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 511:
Narrated ‘Abdullah:
A man from the people of the scripture came to the Prophet and said, “O Abal-Qasim! Allah will hold the Heavens upon a Finger, and the Earth on a Finger and the land on a Finger, and all the creation on a Finger, and will say, ‘I am the King! I am the King!’ ” I saw the Prophet (after hearing that), smiling till his premolar teeth became visible, and he then recited: — ‘No just estimate have they made of Allah such as due to him… (39.67)
The Throne of Allah:
Translation of Al-Qur’an 0069:017:
“And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them.”
Various translations of Al-Qur’an 0057:004:
Yusuf Ali: (Allah) Most Gracious is firmly established on the throne (of authority).
Pickthal: The Beneficent One, Who is established on the Throne.
Arberry: the All-compassionate sat Himself upon the Throne; to Him belongs
Sarwar: The Beneficent God is dominant over the Throne (of the realm).
Hilali/Khan: The Most Beneficent (Allah) Istawa (rose over) the (Mighty) Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty).
H/K/Saheeh: The Most Merciful [who is] above the Throne established.
Malik: the Beneficent (Allah) Who is firmly established on the throne of authority, QXP: The Beneficent, established on the throne of His Almightiness. (He maintains Supreme Control over all that He has created).
Maulana Ali: The Beneficent is established on the Throne of Power.
Free Minds: The Almighty, on the throne He settled.
George Sale: The Merciful sitteth on his throne:
JM Rodwell: The God of Mercy sitteth on his throne:
Asad: the Most Gracious, established on the throne of His almightiness?
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 41, Number 595:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
While Allah’s Apostle was sitting, a Jew came and said, “O Abul Qasim! One of your companions has slapped me on my face.” The Prophet asked who that was. He replied that he was one of the Ansar. The Prophet sent for him, and on his arrival, he asked him whether he had beaten the Jew. He (replied in the affirmative and) said, “I heard him taking an oath in the market saying, ‘By Him Who gave Moses superiority over all the human beings.’ I said, ‘O wicked man! (Has Allah given Moses superiority) even over Muhammad I became furious and slapped him over his face.” The Prophet said, “Do not give a prophet superiority over another, for on the Day of Resurrection all the people will fall unconscious and I will be the first to emerge from the earth, and will see Moses standing and holding one of the legs of the Throne. I will not know whether Moses has fallen unconscious or the first unconsciousness was sufficient for him.”
The Movement of Allah (Ascent and Descent):
Translation of Al-Qur’an 007:054:
“Indeed your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in Six days, and then He rose over (Istawa) the Throne. He brings…blessed is Allah the Lord of the worlds”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, 8: 333
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “When it is the last third of the night, our Lord, the Blessed, the Superior, descends every night to the heaven of the world and says, 'Is there anyone who invokes Me (demand anything from Me), that I may respond to his invocation; is there anyone who asks Me for something that I may give (it to) him; is there anyone who asks My forgiveness that I may forgive him?”
The Shade of Allah:
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 24, Number 504:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (p.b.u.h) said, “Seven people will be shaded by Allah under His shade on the day when there will be no shade except His.
The Laughter of Allah:
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532c:
Narrated ‘Ata’ bin Yazid Al-Laithi:
The man will say, ‘O my Lord! Do not make me the most miserable of Your creation,’ and he will keep on invoking Allah till Allah will laugh because of his sayings, and when Allah will laugh because of him, He will say to him, ‘Enter Paradise,’ and when he will enter it, Allah will say to him, ‘Wish for anything.’ So he will ask his Lord, and he will wish for a great number of things, for Allah Himself will remind him to wish for certain things by saying, ‘(Wish for) so-and-so.’ When there is nothing more to wish for, Allah will say, ‘This is for you, and its equal (is for you) as well.”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
On reaching then and seeing its life, charm, and pleasure, he will remain quiet as long as Allah wills and then will say, ‘O my Lord ! Let me enter
.’ Allah will say, May Allah be merciful unto you, O son of Adam! How treacherous you are! Haven’t you made covenants and given pledges that you will not ask for anything more that what you have been given?’ He will say, ‘O my Lord! Do not make me the most wretched amongst Your creatures.’ So Allah will laugh and allow him to enter
Paradiseand will ask him to request as much as he likes.
The Image of Allah:
Translation of Al-Qur’an 072:022-025:
“Some faces that Day shall be resplendent Looking at their Lord (Allah); And some faces, that Day, will be Basirah (dark, gloomy, frowning, and sad), Thinking that some calamity was about to fall on them;”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 529:
Narrated Jarir:
We were sitting with the Prophet and he looked at the moon on the night of the full-moon and said, “You people will see your Lord as you see this full moon, and you will have no trouble in seeing Him, so if you can avoid missing (through sleep or business, etc.) a prayer before sunrise (Fajr) and a prayer before sunset (Asr) you must do so.”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 74, Number 246:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “Allah created Adam in His complete shape and form (directly), sixty cubits (about 30 meters) in height. When He created him, He said (to him), “Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring.” Adam (went and) said, ‘As-Salamu alaikum (Peace be upon you).’ They replied, ‘AsSalamu-’Alaika wa Rahmatullah (Peace and Allah’s Mercy be on you) So they increased ‘Wa Rahmatullah’ The Prophet added ‘So whoever will enter
, will be of the shape and form of Adam. Since then the creation of Adam’s (offspring) (i.e. stature of human beings is being diminished continuously) to the present time.”
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532s:
Narrated Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri:
When there remain only those who used to worship Allah (Alone), both the obedient ones and the mischievous ones, it will be said to them, ‘What keeps you here when all the people have gone?’ They will say, ‘We parted with them (in the world) when we were in greater need of them than we are today, we heard the call of one proclaiming, ‘Let every nation follow what they used to worship,’ and now we are waiting for our Lord.’ Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, ‘I am your Lord,’ and they will say, ‘You are not our Lord.’ And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, ‘Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?’ They will say. ‘The Shin,’ and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation. These people will try to prostrate but their backs will be rigid like one piece of a wood (and they will not be able to prostrate). Then the bridge will be laid across Hell.” We, the companions of the Prophet said, “O Allah’s Apostle! What is the bridge?’
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 105:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
During the lifetime of the Prophet some people said, : O Allah’s Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?” The Prophet said, “Yes; do you have any difficulty in seeing the sun at midday when it is bright and there is no cloud in the sky?” They replied, “No.” He said, “Do you have any difficulty in seeing the moon on a full moon night when it is bright and there is no cloud in the sky?” They replied, “No.” The Prophet said, “(Similarly) you will have no difficulty in seeing Allah on the Day of Resurrection as you have no difficulty in seeing either of them. On the Day of Resurrection, a call-maker will announce, “Let every nation follow that which they used to worship.” Then none of those who used to worship anything other than Allah like idols and other deities but will fall in Hell (Fire), till there will remain none but those who used to worship Allah, both those who were obedient (i.e. good) and those who were disobedient (i.e. bad) and the remaining party of the people of the Scripture. Then the Jews will be called upon and it will be said to them, ‘Who do you use to worship?’ They will say, ‘We used to worship Ezra, the son of Allah.’ It will be said to them, ‘You are liars, for Allah has never taken anyone as a wife or a son. What do you want now?’ They will say, ‘O our Lord! We are thirsty, so give us something to drink.’ They will be directed and addressed thus, ‘Will you drink,’ whereupon they will be gathered unto Hell (Fire) which will look like a mirage whose different sides will be destroying each other. Then they will fall into the Fire. Afterwards the Christians will be called upon and it will be said to them, ‘Who do you use to worship?’ They will say, ‘We used to worship Jesus, the son of Allah.’ It will be said to them, ‘You are liars, for Allah has never taken anyone as a wife or a son,’ Then it will be said to them, ‘What do you want?’ They will say what the former people have said. Then, when there remain (in the gathering) none but those who used to worship Allah (Alone, the real Lord of the Worlds) whether they were obedient or disobedient. Then (Allah) the Lord of the worlds will come to them in a shape nearest to the picture they had in their minds about Him. It will be said, ‘What are you waiting for?’ Every nation have followed what they used to worship.’ They will reply, ‘We left the people in the world when we were in great need of them and we did not take them as friends. Now we are waiting for our Lord Whom we used to worship.’ Allah will say, ‘I am your Lord.’ They will say twice or thrice, ‘We do not worship any besides Allah.’ “
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 76, Number 577:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Some people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?” He said, “Do you crowd and squeeze each other on looking at the sun when it is not hidden by clouds?” They replied, “No, Allah’s Apostle.” He said, “Do you crowd and squeeze each other on looking at the moon when it is full and not hidden by clouds?” They replied, No, O Allah’s Apostle!” He said, “So you will see Him (your Lord) on the Day of Resurrection similarly Allah will gather all the people and say, ‘Whoever used to worship anything should follow that thing. ‘So, he who used to worship the sun, will follow it, and he who used to worship the moon will follow it, and he who used to worship false deities will follow them; and then only this nation (i.e., Muslims) will remain, including their hypocrites. Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, ‘I am your Lord.‘ They will say, ‘We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him.
Then Allah will come to them in a shape they know and will say, “I am your Lord. ‘ They will say, ‘(No doubt) You are our Lord,’ and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire.” Allah’s Apostle added, “I will be the first to cross it. And the invocation of the Apostles on that Day, will be ‘Allahukka Sallim, Sallim (O Allah, save us, save us!),’ and over that bridge there will be hooks Similar to the thorns of As Sa’dan (a thorny tree). Didn’t you see the thorns of As-Sa’dan?” The companions said, “Yes, O Allah’s Apostle.” He added, “So the hooks over that bridge will be like the thorns of As-Sa-dan except that their greatness in size is only known to Allah. These hooks will snatch the people according to their deeds. Some people will be ruined because of their evil deeds, and some will be cut into pieces and fall down in Hell, but will be saved afterwards, when Allah has finished the judgments among His slaves, and intends to take out of the Fire whoever He wishes to take out from among those who used to testify that none had the right to be worshipped but Allah.
CONCLUSION: when the pure Islamic texts say that Allah has a Face, Eyes, Legs, Feet, Two Hands (Right Hand included) with Fingers, He sits on an actual Throne which is held by bearers, He has a shadow under which 7 persons shall be shaded, Allah laughs and talks, He Ascends His Throne and comes down to the lowest heaven, has an Image which shall be seen clearly by inmates of Paradise, a Form( Shape) which He shall change and shall uncover his Leg( Shin)....what can any layman conclude!!!??? Only That Allah is a Person who has a Form and is on a Location.
How can anyone after reading this say that Allah is formless, imageless or shapeless???
2. Mohammad in the Bhavishya Purana !!!
According to ZN, Bhavishya Purana predicts Mohammad & Islam.
Let’s see what the Purana actually predicts about these……
Original Sanskrit Version: Bhavishya Puran: Prati Sarg: Part III:3,3 5-27
Translation source:
(http://www.indiadivine.org/articles/188/1/Bhavishya-Purana-The-Prediction-of-Islam/Page1.html)
Shri Suta Gosvami said: In the dynasty of king Shalivahana, there were ten kings who went to the heavenly planets after ruling for over 500 years. Then gradually the morality declined on the earth. At that time Bhojaraja was the tenth of the kings on the earth. When he saw that the moral law of conduct was declining he went to conquer all the directions of his country with ten-thousand soldiers commanded by Kalidasa. He crossed the river Sindhu and conquered over the gandharas, mlecchas, shakas, kasmiris, naravas and sathas. He punished them and collected a large amount of wealth. Then the king went along with Mahamada (Muhammad), the preceptor of mleccha-dharma, and his followers to the great god, Lord Shiva, situated in the desert. He bathed Lord Shiva with
Gangeswater and worshipped him in his mind with pancagavya (milk, ghee, yoghurt, cow dung, and cow urine) and sandalwood paste, etc. After he offered some prayers and pleased him.
Suta Goswami said: After hearing the king’s prayers, Lord Shiva said: O king Bhojaraja, you should go to the place called Mahakakshvara, that land is called Vahika and now is being contaminated by the mlecchas. In that terrible country there no longer exists dharma. There was a mystic demon named Tripura (Tripurasura), whom I have already burnt to ashes, he has come again by the order of
Bali. He has no origin but he achieved a benediction from me. His name is Mahamada (Muhammad) and his deeds are like that of a ghost. Therefore, O king, you should not go to this land of the ghost. By my mercy your intelligence will be purified. Hearing this the king came back to his country and Mahamada (Muhammad) came with them to the bank of the river Sindhu. He was expert in expanding illusion, so he said to the king very pleasingly: O great king, your god has become my servant. Just see, as he eats my remnants, so I will show you. The king became surprised when he saw this just before them. Then in anger Kalidasa rebuked Mahamada(Muhammad) “O rascal, you have created an illusion to bewilder the king, I will kill you, you are the lowest…”
That city is known as their site of pilgrimage, a place which was Madina or free from intoxication.
(raatrau sa devaruupashca bahumaayavishaaradah
paishaacam dehamaasthaaya bhojaraajam hi soabravit): Having a form of a ghost (pishaca), the expert illusionist Mahamada (Muhammad) appeared at night in front of king Bhojaraja and said:
(aaryayadharmohi te raajansarvadharmottamah smritah
iishaagyayaa karishyaami paishaaca dharma daarunam)
O king, your religion is of course known as the best religion among all. Still I am going to establish a terrible and demoniac religion by the order of the Lord .
(lingacchedii shikhaahinah shmashrudhaari sa dushakah
uccaalaapii sarva bhakshi bhavishyati jano mama)
The symptoms of my followers will be that they first of all be circumsized, have no shikha, but having beard, be wicked, make noise loudly and eat everything.
(binaa kaala caa pashavaasteshaaam bhakshyaa mataa mama
naimusaleva samskaarah kushariva bhavishyati)
According to my teachings, they will eat all animals except swine. They will not seekpurification by sitting on Kusha grass, rather their purification will come by warfare(Musal).
(tasmaanmusalavanto hi jaatayo dharmadushakaah
iti paishaaca dharmashca bhavishyati maya krutah)
They shall be known as Musal because of their battles with irreligious nations, and I shallbe known as the originator of this pisaca-dharma.
After having heard all this the king came back to his palace and that ghost(Muhammad) went back to his place.
The intelligent king, Bhojaraj established the language of Sanskrit in three varnas – the brahmanas, kshatriyas and vaisyas – and for the shudras he established prakrita-bhasha, the ordinary language spoken by common men. After ruling his kingdom for 50 years, he went to the heavenly planet. The moral laws established by him were honored even by the demigods. The arya-varta, the pious land is situated between Vindhyacala and Himacala or the mountains known as Vindhya and
Himalaya. The Aryans reside there, but varna-sankaras reside on the lower part of Vindhya. The musalman people were kept on the other side of the river Sindhu.
On the
island of Barbara, Tusha and many others also the followers of Isamsiha were also situated as they were managed by a king or demigods.
Hence the Purana clearly states that-
Muhammad was the rebirth of Tripurasura the Demon.
Tripurasura was killed by Lord Shiva in his (Tripurasura’s) past life.
The meaning of Mlechha (from Sanskrit dictionary)
1. A barbarian,a non Aryan ( One not speaking the Sanskrit Language or not conform in to Hindu or Aryan institutions),a foreigner in general
2. An Outcast, a very low man, Bodhayana thus defines the word:
gomAmsakhAdako yastu viruddhaM bahubhAshhate | sarvAchAravihInashcha mlechchha ityabhidhiiyate |
He who eats cow’s meat, and speaks a lot against shastras and he, who is also devoid of all forms of spiritual practice, is called a mlechha.
3. A sinner, A wicked person, A savage or barbarian race
The meaning of Paisachya (from Sanskrit dictionary)
Paisachya - Demonical, Infernal
The meaning of Asura from Sanskrit dictionary
1. An evil spirit, demon.
2. A general name for the enemies of Gods.
3. Mohammed in the Atharva Veda ?
According to the learned researchers of IRF Atharva Veda predicts the Prophet. Let’s read the Sanskrit with detachment (i.e. without love or hatred) and analyze whether it is correct or not.
We shall quote the text published byIRF as “IRF:” and the analysis of the same as “Analysis:”
The actual Sanskrit translations of the mantras will be quoted as “Actual:”
1. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Prophesised in Atharvaveda
IRF:
In the 20th book of Atharvaveda Hymn 127 Some Suktas (chapters) are known as Kuntap Sukta. Kuntap means the consumer of misery and troubles. Thus meaning the message of peace and safety and if translated in Arabic means Islam.
Analysis:
1. By this logic, all books having the message of peace and safety and their content would mean Islam.
2. Considering that Vedas came way before Muhammad founded Islam, this only means that whatever peaceful or good was brought by Muhammad in Islam was actually already a part of Vedic traditions. And that the word Islam was already existing way before Muhammad adapted it to name his cult.
IRF:
Kuntap also means hidden glands in the abdomen. These mantras are called so probably because their true meaning was hidden and was to be revealed in future. Its hidden meaning is also connected with the navel or the middle point of this earth. Makkah is called the Ummul Qur’a the mother of the towns or the naval of the earth. In many revealed books it was the first house of Divine worship where God Almighty gave spiritual nourishment to the world. The Qur’an says in Surah Ali-Imran chapter 3, verse 96:
“The first house (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakkah (Makkah) full of blessings and of guidance and for all kinds of beings”. Thus Kuntap stands for Makkah or Bakkah.
Analysis:
1. Which dictionary states that Kuntaap means hidden glands in the abdomen?
2. Further, even if it means so, as researched by Dr Naik, how does it link with navel? In abdomen, all other organs are hidden inside – liver, stomach, intestine etc. It is only the navel which is not hidden!
3. The third line of IRF quote obviously refers to Islamic belief of earth being flat, and Muhammad being born in centre of the earth! But as per Vedas and modern science, earth is almost spherical and hence all points on it can be considered middle point.
4. Had
Mecca(Makkah) been on Equator, perhaps some credibility could have been attached to IRF claims. But as per modern science, in a non-flat world,
Meccalies at 21-29 N. It is not even on Tropic of Cancer!
Kuntaapa = abdominal glands = navel = center = center of the earth =
Mecca
hence, Kuntaapa =
For Kuntaap to mean
Mecca, great leaps of imagination are required.
IRF:
Several people have translated these Kuntap Suktas like M. Bloomfield, Prof. Ralph Griffith, Pandit Rajaram, Pandit Khem Karan, etc.
Analysis:
1. Of the translators mentioned by IRF, two are western indologists who had their own Christian agenda. They can no way be considered relevant for understanding of Vedas.
2. But interestingly, even they talk of nothing even remotely related to Muhammad or
Meccain the alleged verses. The only common point perhaps is the word camel. It seems that IRF team frantically searched for various mantras referring to camel in Vedas, and chose to interpret them, as per their own agenda, as would soon be evident. Readers can review the
Griffithtranslation of these mantras at http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/av/av20127.htm and decide themselves. They can review translations of other scholars mentioned by IRF and check truth themselves. We shall provide excerpts from translation by Pandit Khem Karan as illustration. You can check them at http://www.aryasamajjamnagar.org/atharvaveda_v2/atharvaveda.htm
IRF:
The main points mentioned in the Kuntap Suktas i.e. in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 127 verses 1-13 are:
Mantra 1
He is Narashansah or the praised one (Muhammad). He is Kaurama: the prince of peace or the emigrant, who is safe, even amongst a host of 60,090 enemies.
Mantra 2
He is a camel-riding Rishi, whose chariot touches the heaven.
Mantra 3
He is Mamah Rishi who is given a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets (necklaces), three hundred good steeds and ten thousand cows.
Mantra 4
Vachyesv rebh. ‘Oh! ye who glorifies’.
Analysis:
Mantra 1
Actual Meaning (Pandit Khem Karan): Narashanshah or the praised one shall be praised. O Kaurama – one who dwells happily on earth, we shall receive 60090 kinds of gifts from those brave ones who have destroyed violent ones.
Mantra 2, 3
Actual Meaning (Pandit Khem Karan): His chariot has twenty fast-moving camels and she-camels. He donated 100 gold coins, 10 garlands, 300 horses and 10000 cows to deserving people.
Mantra 4
Actual Meaning (Pandit Khem Karan): Keep preaching in the manner a bird chirps on a tree laden with fruits till death comes.
So far, nothing seems odd about the meanings given by IRF or other scholars. The only differences are that certain terms have subtly been introduced to set the context for proving Muhammad in these mantras. In modern parlance, this technique is called covert persuasion. Note that so far nothing hints at Muhammad except that there is a mention of camel!
Now let us analyse the IRF research
IRF:
The Sanskrit word Narashansah means ‘the praised one’, which is the literal translation of the Arabic word Muhammad (pbuh).
Analysis:
1. The Arabic term b-ismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm which is uttered before every verse of Quran is literal translation of “All glories to the merciful Lord.” In the Vedic literature, Lord Vishnu is repeatedly referred to as “the merciful Lord.” So using IRF’s own logic, the standard Islamic invocation can be shown to refer to Lord Vishnu.
IRF:
The Sanskrit word Kaurama means ‘one who spreads and promotes peace’. The holy Prophet was the ‘Prince of Peace’ and he preached equality of human kind and universal brotherhood. Kaurama also means an emigrant. The Prophet migrated from Makkah to Madinah and was thus also an Emigrant.
Analysis:
1. Kaurama means ‘one who dwells peacefully on earth’. Now history is evident of how peaceful has Prophet’s life been.
2. The way Prophet migrated from Makkah to Madinah, has been replicated by millions throughout the history. One can hardly name a historically famous person who becomes famous without moving around! So how is this verse applicable only for the Prophet ?
IRF:
He will be protected from 60,090 enemies, which was the population of Makkah.
Analysis:
From which census did IRF find out this population figure?
IRF:
The Prophet would ride a camel. This clearly indicates that it cannot be an Indian Rishi, since it is forbidden for a Brahman to ride a camel according to the Sacred Books of the East, volume 25, Laws of Manu pg. 472. According to Manu Smirti chapter 11 verse 202, “A Brahman is prohibited from riding a camel or an ass and to bathe naked. He should purify himself by suppressing his breath”.
Analysis:
1. The mantra says allegorically that the chariot of the king will have twenty male and female camels. Even if we take it literally, did Muhammad ever travel on such a camel-chariot? Is Prophet the only camel-rider on earth ever in history?
2. The mantra talks about a king who is a Kshatriya and not a Brahman. So the relevant excerpt from Manu is not applicable in first place. Also , the original translation simply states that if a Brahman has to ride on a camel, he can purify himself by doing Pranayam. It does not say that Brahman is banned from riding camel.
IRF:
This mantra gave the Rishi’s name as Mamah. No rishi in
or another Prophet had this name Mamah which is derived from Mah which means to esteem highly, or to revere, to exalt, etc. Some Sanskrit books give the Prophet’s name as ‘Mohammad’, but this word according to Sanskrit grammar can also be used in the bad sense. It is incorrect to apply grammar to an Arabic word. Actually it has the same meaning and somewhat similar pronunciation as the word Muhammad (pbuh).
Analysis:
1. The word “Mamahe” is used in the 3rd mantra of 127th sukta of Atharvaveda and not “Mamah”. There is a world of difference as we will see in next point. The derivation as given by IRF is a deviation & is not based on any text on grammar.
2. The word ‘Mamahe’ has been used as a verb here, meaning “We give” and NOT a noun.
3. Further the word has been used in plural and not singular. So it can not denote a singular person by wildest stretch of imagination.
4. If the word ‘Mamahe’ has to mean a noun ‘Muhammad’ in this mantra, the mantra becomes meaningless because ‘Mamahe’ is the ONLY verb in the entire mantra. And no sentence can have any meaning without presence of even a single verb!
IRF:
He is given 100 gold coins, which refers to the believers and the earlier companions of the Prophet during his turbulent Makkan life. Later on due to persecution they migrated from Makkah to Abysinia. Later when Prophet migrated to Madinah all of them joined him in Madinah.
Analysis:
1. Suddenly, gold coins have turned into believers .
2. No text of Islam states that his followers were 100 in number initially. Some biographers do hint at 40 followers, but 100 seems to be another new revelation. Refer http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/history/prophet.htm
IRF:
The 10 chaplets or necklaces were the 10 best companions of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) known as Ashra-Mubbashshira (10 bestowed with good news). These were foretold in this world of their salvation in the hereafter i.e. they were given the good news of entering paradise by the Prophet’s own lips and after naming each one he said “in
”. They were Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, Talha, Zubair, Abdur Rahman Ibn Auf, Saad bin Abi Waqqas, Saad bin Zaid and Abu Ubaidah (May Allah be well-pleased with all of them).
Analysis:
1. What made IRF think that necklace can mean companions? Merely the fact that 10 companions of Prophet are very famous in Islamic folklores? Almost all Prophets of Islam roamed in desert and hence were camel riders.
2. So why can’t this mean Ten Commandments of Moses, by same logic!
IRF:
The Sanskrit word ‘Go’ is derived from ‘Gaw’ which means ‘to go to war’. A cow is also called ‘Go’ and is a symbol of war as well as peace. The 10,000 cows refer to the 10,000 companions who accompanied the Prophet (pbuh) when he entered Makkah during Fateh Makkah which was a unique victory in the history of mankind in which there was no blood shed. The 10,000 companions were pious and compassionate like cows and were at the same time strong and fierce and are described in the Holy Quran in Surah Fatah:
“Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.”
[Al-Qur'an 48:29]
Analysis:
1. This is yet another research of Dr Naik that ‘Go’ means ‘to go to war’. ‘Go’ indeed means a lot of things in various mantras depending on the context – Cow, Earth, Moving Body etc. But in the current context, where the subject is of donation, the obvious meaning is ‘Cow’.
Donation of Cow has been a longstanding Vedic tradition still practiced and respected. All Vedic legends were preservers and protectors of cow. All noble Vedic kings were known to donate cows. Cow forms the backbone of Vedic civilization .
2. It is difficult to see the comparison of 10000 companions of Muhammad with cow. If they mean cow, then cow cannot mean ‘to go at war’ in this mantra as the same word cannot mean two completely different things in same context.
3. If indeed Muslims consider cows to be compassionate and pious, as described in IRF article, what makes them kill these cows in name of Allah?
4. In fact in this mantra, to make sense in lines of IRF propaganda, ‘Go’ has to mean three things – to go at war (a verb), symbol of peace and symbol of war, all at the same time! It has to be a verb and a noun at the same time! As ‘Mamahe’ is the only verb in the mantra, it has been deliberately interpreted as a noun in this mantra by IRF. Thus this would have to be the only sentence of its kind in history of language where a word is a verb and two nouns at same time, and another word which is supposed to be a verb is now a noun.
Battle of the Allies described in the Vedas.
It is mentioned in Atharvaveda Book XX Hymn 21 verse 6, “Lord of the truthful! These liberators drink these feats of bravery and the inspiring songs gladdened thee in the field of battle. When thou renders vanquished without fight the ten thousand opponents of the praying one, the adoring one.”
This Prophecy of the Veda describes the well-known battle of Ahzab or the battle of the Allies during the time of Prophet Muhammed. The Prophet was victorious without an actual conflict which is mentioned in the Qur’an in Surah Ahzab:
“When the believers saw the confederate forces they said, “This is what Allah and His Messenger had promised us and Allah and His Messenger told us what was true.” And it only added to their faith and their zeal in obedience.”
[Al-Qur'an 33:22]
The Sanskrit word karo in the Mantra means the ‘praying one’ which when translated into Arabic means ‘Ahmed’, the second name of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh).
The 10,000 opponents mentioned in the Mantra were the enemies of the Prophet and the Muslims were only 3000 in number.
The last words of the Mantra aprati ni bashayah means the defeat was given to the enemies without an actual fight.
Analysis:
Actual Meaning (Pandit Khem Karan): “O Protector of Truthful! You have been pleased by those brave ones who produce bliss, by acts of bravery and noble passion in wars against the enemies. Through smart action oriented zeal, ten thousand enemies have been defeated without resistance.”
1. If indeed it means Battle of Ahzab, why is the number of soldiers in Prophet’s army not given?
2. The phrase Dash Sahsra or its variants are used in several places in Vedas to signify a large number or limitlessness.
3. There is no word as ‘Karo’ in the mantra. The closest sounding word in the mantra is “Karave’ which DOES NOT mean praying one’. It means ‘for the action-oriented’. NO name of Muhammad means ‘action-oriented’. So any connection with Muhammad is ruled out.
IRF:
The enemies’ defeat in the conquest of Makkah is mentioned in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 21 verse no 9:
“You have O Indra, overthrown 20 kings and 60,099 men with an outstripping Chariot wheel who came to fight the praised one or far famed (Muhammad) orphan.”
The population of Makkah at the time of Prophet’s advent was nearly 60,000. There were several clans in Makkah each having its own chief. Totally there were about 20 chiefs to rule the population of Makkah. An Abandhu meaning a helpless man who was far-famed and ‘praised one’. Muhammad (pbuh) overcame his enemies with the help of God.
Analysis:
1. There is no census data to validate that
had a population of 60,000 in Muhammad’s era except IRF research based on their own revealed sources.
2. Literal translation of this mantra means that 60000 plus enemies and their 20 kings were crushed under the chariots. By this logic, there should be 60,000 soldiers in the battlefield , also
had a population of 60,000 .If that be so, it means that entire population of
Meccaincluding women & children fought against Muhammad and were killed by him.
3. In reality, this Battle of Mecca was as small tribal battle where 900-1000 soldiers and 300 soldiers of Islam have supposed to have fought for a few hours, as per Islamic experts. And not more than 10 leaders are known to have participated from Meccan side. Thus neither the number 20, nor 60000 in mantra has any reference to this tiny battle.
4. Muhammad prophesised in the Rigveda?
IRF:
A similar prophecy is also found in Rigveda Book I, Hymn 53 verse 9:
The Sanskrit word used is Sushrama, which means praiseworthy or well praised which in Arabic means Muhammad (pbuh).
Analysis:
1. Literally translated, the meaning is similar to previous verse, implying Muhammad wiped out 60000 plus people to rule
.
2. Sushravasa means a good listener or a reliable friend in this mantra, nothing to do with Muhammad.
3. Even if its means well praised, it only means that Muhammad was well-praised by his men for carrying carnage of 60000 people of
Mecca!
5.Muhummad prophesised in the Samveda!!
IRF:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is also prophesized in the Samveda Book II Hymn 6 verse 8:
“Ahmed acquired from his Lord the knowledge of eternal law. I received light from him just as from the sun.” The Prophecy confirms:
The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be Ahm at hi and translated the mantra as “I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father”.
Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah.
The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba chapter 34 verse 28
“We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not.”
Analysis:
1. ‘Aham At Hi’ is authentic Sanskrit way of expression. And in joining of words, ‘t’ becomes ‘d’. For example, ‘Sat’ + ‘Aachaar’ = “SaDaachaar”. ‘Hi’ means only.
2. If indeed Vedas predicted word ‘Ahmad’ which is Arabic word, does it mean Arabic is older than Vedic Sanskrit?
General Analysis
1. In Vedas, which are an ocean of mantras, there are only 7 mantras(distributed randomly) about the Prophet, considered as the most important topic of the Vedas(according to the IRF).
If the Vedas had wanted to give so much importance to the Prophet and his activities, they would have clearly instructed people to follow him.
2. If indeed Vedas could predict Muhammad and his life, why is IRF and Muslim world shy about embracing Vedas as Books of God? Why do they have to write in the FAQ’s on Hinduism that Vedas may or MAY NOT be the book of God?
6.There is only one life and permanent Heaven/Hell. Only those who believe in the Koran and Muhammad go to Heaven.
Let us evaluate this concept by posing some logical questions & see if it is plausible.
1.Many children die in the wombs. Now as per Islam would they go to Heaven or Hell? Most scholars of Islam say they go to Heaven because they never did anything wrong in their lives.
Now the question is “Did they even have an option to do anything wrong?”
Is Allah not being partial by passing one candidate even without starting his examination, and another one has to keep giving test after test continuously for 100 years!
2. If a person is born insane & his mental faculties have not developed beyond say, age of five. But he lives a long life. Will he go to Hell or Heaven?
This gives rise to the same questions as above & result in either Allah being unjust or concept of one life as test to enter Heaven/Hell being wrong.
3. If a person is not born as a Muslim. Now as per Islam, only those who believe in Quran and Muhammad can go to Heaven. So who will go where?
What is a person’s fault if he was born and brought up in a non-Muslim family and never got any reason to be convinced by Koran? Why has Allah planned his stay in Hell from advance?
Definitely the non Muslims are bound to go to Hell. Now the question arises that “Was Allah unjust by not giving everyone birth in family of a Muslim.
4. A person who is devout follower of Islam believes that children go to Heaven because that is what scholars teach him. So as a noble example of self-sacrifice, he starts killing children. His logic is that, even if I have to suffer in Hell forever, I should do my best to ensure that these innocent children get reservation for
Paradise!Thus he is doing a selfless social service. Will he go to Heaven or Hell?
If he goes to Heaven, then Allah or God is setting a wrong example for people to follow.
If he goes to Hell, then selflessness is bad.
Further, since no one will actually know who will go where until doomsday(kayamat) comes, it means that there is already enough confusion to motivate many innocent selfless social workers to follow the path of infanticide and killing!
5. What about animals – reptiles, insects, mammals and other creatures? Will they go to Heaven or Hell? The earlier belief was that animals do not have souls. But now that it has been amply proved that at least the higher animals feel pain and pleasure like humans and are alive, the opinion is divided.
Some claim that they will also go to Heaven. Others say that Allah knows the best!
In case they go to Heaven, why did God or Allah bias against others and not gave them birth as cockroaches and goats? That way they too would have got straight passport to Heaven!
In case they go to Hell, what was their fault?
Also, will they live like cockroaches and goats, or will they get human body? Will their intelligence be enhanced? Or they remain equally dumb as in earth?
6. Heaven and Hell seem to be permanent. It will continue forever. Now if that be so, based on one single test, Allah put certain people directly in Heaven without testing them at all! Others he tested for so many years. Some he gave birth in homes of Apostates, some as children of Prophet himself.
Is this just on part of Allah?
What would happen if people start fighting , cheating & doing adultery in Heaven? Will they be shifted to Hell? Or will they be permitted to do whatever they want and yet remain in Heaven?
7. Is Mohammad the Kalki Avtaar
IRF : According to Kalki Purana the name of Kalki Avatar will be 'SARWANAMA'.The meaning of 'ANAMA' is praised one and 'SARW' mean most of all, so 'Sarwanama' means the most praised one and in Arabic language 'Muhammad ' has the same meaning, if we translate Sanskrit word Sarwanama in to Arabic language it will be 'Muhammad' only difference is the language.
Analysis: Every prophet is Sarwanama it implies in general. So it’s not a name it’s a quality.
IRF: PARENTS OF KALKI AVTAR
'He will be born from 'SOOMATI' and his father's name will be 'VAISHNUVESH'.' (Kalki Purana 2, Shloka II)
VAISHNUVESH and SOOMATI means servant of God (the cherisher) and peace, respectively. Prophet Muhammad father's name was ABDULLAH in Arabic language, which means God's servant, and his mother's name was AMINA in Arabic language, which means peace, so if we translate Sanskrit word 'Vaishnuvesh &Soomati' in Arabic language it will be 'Abdullah & Amina'. So again the difference of language.
Analysis: Vishnuvesh means “one who has the appearance like that of Vishnu”,it could also mean ‘the servant of God’ just like Abdullah which means ‘servant of God’ . A servant of Vishnu would not be equivalent to a servant of Allah, unless one admits that Allah is Vishnu.
Anima means peace but Soomati means (soo= good , mati=mind) that’s good mind ,how can it be related with peace? It’s not the difference of language but an entirely different name.
This is an error in philology.
IRF: PLACE OF BIRTH
'HE will be born at 'SHAMBAL GRAM' in VAISHNUVESH'S Brahmin Mahant's (religious saint) respectable house' (Bhagwata Purana, Khand 12,Shloka 18 and Kalki Purana Adhyaya 2, Shloka 4)
SHAMBAL mean peace and GRAM mean city or village, so SHAMBAL GRAM means a peaceful city or city of peace, and this quality & name has been specified only for Arabia's city 'MAKKAH' no other city in the world has been named city of peace. In the Holy Quran this city has been called as'ALBALAD ALAMEEN' which mean peace full city or city of peace. For reference see Holy Quran (14:35) O God, make it (Makkah) a City of
'. And Makkahis the city where prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was born.
Analysis: This is an error in geographical terminology. An isle is an island,
The Vishnu Purana clearly says 'He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin of Sambhala Isles'. Muhammad was not born in Sambhala Isles, he was born in Arabia, and no one has ever claimed that Muhammad came from a Brahmin family.
Anyhow Of course Kalki will be born in “Sambhala” village . Can IRF show the meaning of Sambhala= Peace in any Sanskrit dictionary?
IRF: BRAHMIN MAHANT mean religious saint and Makkah's religious and respectable saint was 'Hasham', then 'Mutlib', then Hasham's son'Abdul Mutlib' became the religious saint of Makkah, who was the grand father of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and during the period of religious saint Muhammad was born in home of Abdullah son of Abdul Mutlib. In short, Muhammad was born in the respectable tribe of Quraish who enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah. So according to scripture Kalki Avatar will be born in Brahmin Mahant's (religious saint) respectable family.
Analysis: Brahmin mahant means a vedic priest & not any mullah of mosque. Muslims don't have brahmins in their caste. Or does it mean that Abdullah was a Vedic Brahmin?
IRF: DATE OFBIRTH OF KALKI AVTAR
* He will be born in the month of Baisakh on 12th day (Kalki Purana Adhyaya 2,Shloka 15)
Baisakh is famous month in Hindi, which is still known with this name. According to Hindi calendar Muhammad was born on 12th Baisakh of 628 Bakrami, and this day according to Arabic calendar is 12th Rabiyyyul Awwal. So the date of birth matches with Kalki Avtar.
Analysis: Muhammad is born on 12th day after full moon, he is not born on 12th of Baisakh. Arabic calendar doesn’t match its dates with Indian calendar , IRF is just fitting facts. Have they ever checked the Hindu and Arabic calendar? This assumes that Hindus used the same calendar as Muslims. There is also disagreement among Muslims scholars concerning exactly when Muhammad was born.
IRF: THE PERIOD OF KALKI AVTAR
Kalki Avatar would ride horse, camel and keep the sword to kill the devil and enemies of religion.
Analysis: Kalki is going to incarnate at the end of the Kali yuga which is approximately 432000 years from now. If IRF says that Kalki is Mohammed who is already dead, it means that Kalki Avatar will be born in the past time.
Can IRF show where the word ‘camel’ is used? Kalki will ride a horse of divine origin & not any camels.
…. and if you think that Kalki Purana mentions Kalki fighting only with ancient weapons, how about this?
Soon they entered the city of
, the capital of Koli, and burnt down the city using fiery missile. Alongwith the city, Koli too was burnt and his sons and relatives were destroyed.
~ Kalki Purana, III[7], Verses 9 & 10
This island (Sinhala) is situated on the other side of the shore. The island has pure water and is full of people. Full of various types of Aircrafts and decorated with jewellery. The beauty of the island is enhanced by huge buildings and flags and gates decorated in front of them
This shows Kalki will use aircrafts….now did Muhammad use anything like that??
~ Kalki Purana, II[1], Verses 39, 40, 41
IRF: DEATH OF KALKI AVTAR'SPARENTS
Kalki Avtar's Father will die before his birth and his Mother will die after few years of his birth. (Kalki Purana, Bhagwata Purana Khand 12)
These two indications clearly fit on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). His Father died few days earlier of his birth and his Mother died when Muhammad was only six year old. For reference please study the life history of prophet Muhammad(PBUH).
Analysis: Well no wonder that is a co- incidence but what if we ask that how many children in this world have to bear the same misfortune as Muhammad.
IRF: KALKI AVTAR WILL GET
A MOUNTAIN
According to Kalki Purana, the Kalki Avatar will receive wisdom or knowledge on a mountain's cave from PERSHURAM (angle).
As every one knows that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was busy in his pray in a cave of mountain 'HIRA' and there one day an Angle (Gabriel) appeared and brought the first revelation from God. For reference Holy Quran (96:1)'Read (Prophet Muhammad) with the name of Allah' and he replied' I am not learned' the same indication was given in the Christian scripture (Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12) ' and the book delivered to him that is not learned, saying ' Read this', I pray thee: and he said, I am not learned', this is another prove of his prophecy. So prophet Muhammad received his first revelation in the cave of mountain HIRA. And this prediction also fit on him.
Analysis: Kalki would get his wisdom on
Does Hira mean
Himalayas?
Kalki and Parashuram will meet at a mountain! Not in a cave!
Parshuram is not an angel but a immortal brahmin with the axe any how if Gabriel is Parshuram then where is Gabriel’s axe? The Purana says no such thing like a cave or something . Hindus believe that the Kalki Avatar is a God [Vishnu] who has been reincarnated 10 times and not a mere messenger. Muhammad claimed to be a messenger and would have been grossly offended by the suggestion that he was the incarnation of God. There is a huge difference between the concept of Prophet hood in Islam and the concept of the Avatar in Hinduism and one cannot impose an Islamic meaning on a Hindu title. Kalki was taught by his “Guru” Parshuram in the “Mahendra” mountain. Nowhere is it said in Kalki Purana that his Guru was a messenger of God. Parshuram lived on a mountain – but nowhere is it mentioned that either he or Kalki lived in a cave.
IRF:SPLITTING OF MOON
According to the scripture Kalki Avatar will split the moon.
Analysis: There is no reference of this in any Purana, Veda or Upanishad Where did IRF research this?
IRF: ANGELS WILL HELP HIM DURING WAR
Kalki Avatar will be helped by angels during war. (Kalki Purana Adhyaya 2, Shloka7)
This prediction also fit on prophet Muhammad (PBUH), when during the battle of UHAD, BADR etc. God sent His Angels for his help. For reference see Holy Quran(3:123,124,125) 'And Allah must assuredly helped you at Badr when you were mortified , therefore fear Allah, in order that you will give thanks to Him. When you said to the believers, is it not enough for you that your Lord should reinforce you with three thousand (3,000) angels sent down upon you? Rather, if you have patience and cautions, and they suddenly come against you, your Lord will reinforce you with five thousand (5,000) angles'
Holy Quran (9:25) ' Allah has helped you on many a battlefield ...'
Analysis: The Kalki Avatar, according to the Purana, is the Supreme Lord Himself & possesses 'irresistible might' .Therefore, he does not need divine help, he provides divine help.
This Purana does say that the Kalki Avatar:
None of these descriptions apply to Muhammad.
Secondly The age of KaliYuga is said to start from the year 3102 BC, after the disappearance of Lord Krishna. Finally, after 432,000 years from the beginning of the age of Kali, Lord Kalki will appear.
So Muhammad's time is a bit early for being Kalki.
IRF: In the religious books of Hindus, it is mentioned that the staple food of Kalki Avatar would be dates and olives and he would be the most honest and truthful person in the region. Without any doubt the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is acclaimed to possess these qualities.
Analysis: Every avatar of God is true and honest. That’s not the sole prerogative of Prophet Mohammed. As for Kalki living on olive and dates, this is completely fictitious. In fact in Kalki Purana Chapter III[17], Verse 43, Kalki and his wife is shown to have been feasting on rice, curd and other milk products.
It seems that ZN’s material is not meant for either the Hindu or the serious scholar; it is targeted at the Muslims to strengthen their faith. The research is just to fool the ignorant Hindus, because most Hindus are not fanatically religious and consequently they don’t read much of their books. In fact when a Hindu reads this article, he/she will have increased faith in HINDUISM than converting to Islam.
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